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Is religion an abomination to humankind?
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys... i think u guys got da wrong concept regarding this religion and so and so..
just to tell u the truth that there's no such thing as religion... shocking ah... well even there's different names, all grouped to a one and only Great Teaching, Sanatana Dharma...

U can ask... then where went all those christism, islam and other? well, it's all separated from darma's teachings....... well, if u happened to meet a Great Master or Saint, just ask them what is Sanatana darma...
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Religion is a guide for living, which makes our life worth when we follow it. Whatever may be the religion. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Basko,

No posting is too long or boring. Au contraire, I find your explanation rather interesting and to the point. There are some issues here which I would like to extrapolate, although its just an opinion.

Religion, as you already aware, written by messengers being human are imperfect in a sense that they can misinterpret the teachings of prophets and saints. With the exception of Hinduism, which is not a religion as you pointed out, every other religion's holy books were written some time after the passing of the respective prophets. Take Christianity for an example as Islam is not worthy of mention here.
The Bible was written 60 years after Christ returned to the LORD. There are only 4 gospels in the Bible because Bishop Ireaneus, who wrote the Bible, decided that out of the 30 or more gospels, he wanted 4. Does that actually make the Bible accurate representation of Jesus? Definitely not! Christ is a highly elevated spiritual soul who would've wanted his entire teachings documented, not partly or misinterpreted.

I believe science is the infant of Hinduism. What science has 'discovered' and is still 'discovering' now, never was a discovery as it was already described in Hindu vedic texts more than 9,000 years ago!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basko wrote:
In addition to all that I have said above, there is one question that remains, if religions are started by humans, why then there are gods in the picture? Where & how do they come about in this whole thing? I have my own thoughts on it but would like to hear others opinion…I think it is an interesting discussion too…lets talk guys, that is if we would want to…


suraj5 wrote:
Religion, as you already aware, written by messengers being human are imperfect in a sense that they can misinterpret the teachings of prophets and saints.


Those pictures are nothing but bullshit. Since the holy books of all religion were written by messengers who were imperfect and they could have misinterpreted the teachings of any saints so the imaginative potraits of so called Gods could also be imperfect/inaccurate.

We officially have 4 main religions in this country , islam , hinduism , christianity and buddhism. A religion is a religion no matter how hard we try make it sound different.

Buddhists too claim that their is not a religion but "A Way Of Life". We can call it a way of life. Now tell me which religion is not a way of life ? All religions promotes a certain "Way Of Life" and "Lifestyle". In Islam a certain "Way Of Life" is also suggested too. In Christianity there are many teachings of Jesus Christ consisting of how a christian should live. Hinduism which has many Gods also promotes a variety of "Way Of Life".

Is there any difference now ? Or is there going to be any difference now that hinduism is backed by science. In any circumstances every religion is backed by their own so called justification which no one can claim to be the ultimate truth.

Whether fiction or fact it is not going to change anything or rather we are trying to promote a change by making certain claims and justifying it. Let there be a fair playing ground for all religions. Just because Islam promotes "Holy War" it doesn't become a bad/untrue religion . Just because some bishop omitted certain gospels that is not going to make Christanity irrelevant.

The relevantness of each religion to their own believers are inspired by a deep sense of feeling they develop and let us not ruin it by making claims to render any "way Of Living" irrelevant. It is entirely up to the individuals to decide and not by merely listening to some sermons or preaching , facts or fictions.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just my opinion
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all fairness, in theory, your explanation seems perfect but in reality, what seems true is not. IF what you said was true, then the world should have been a better living place but in reality, its not.......So, your explanation is like painting a really nice canvas that serves as a backdrop to the ugliness at its rear.

If religions of the world cannot unite man to cohabitate with peace and harmony, religion as I see it, is deemed useless and irrelevant. To compound to matters, religions have become abberations to the soul.

How will it be possible to ruin that has been ruined?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suraj5 wrote:
With all fairness, in theory, your explanation seems perfect but in reality, what seems true is not. IF what you said was true, then the world should have been a better living place but in reality, its not.......So, your explanation is like painting a really nice canvas that serves as a backdrop to the ugliness at its rear.

If religions of the world cannot unite man to cohabitate with peace and harmony, religion as I see it, is deemed useless and irrelevant. To compound to matters, religions have become abberations to the soul.

How will it be possible to ruin that has been ruined?


The world is suppose to be a better place to live but unfortunately it isn't and if you were to say religions alone caused it then i would not agree to it. In fact its is humans actions that that made the world a not so conducive place to live in. If in the name of religion man has ruined the world then is the religion to be blamed or man himself ?

Now which religion has taught mankind to bomb & kill others or commit murders , robberies , rapes & etcetera ? I believe none. It is mankind himself have chosed to deviate the teachings of any religion to his own benefit so as to fulfill his own desires , in the name of religion. So now who is to be blamed here ? religion or mankind ?

Well i am not painting a nice canvas to serve as a backdrop. In fact you would be perceived as doing likewise if you were to point at religions and say they caused factions & disunity among mankind. To actually hide the ugliness of mankind himself by blaming religions as the cause.

We must realise the root of all causes is us ourselves. Again , we can use science or facts or fiction or whatsoever to justify our believes & to assert our points but at the end of the day , a dog is a dog !! Let US not be whitewashed tombs !! However white on the outside , it is still a corpse inside. Is there any use ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty mind-opening topic indeed. I feel religion is a guide for every human on the paths and challenges one faces in his entire life. Only the individual himself can decide the rights and wrongs of his actions. That's why God has created human with a brain... to think, research and decide. There's no law in religion tat says u must and can only do certain things. Religion gives u the freedom to think wat's right and wrong. The rules where brought in by human beings who r not perfect themselves. For example..... when the movie Da Vinci Code was released last year many ppl around the world were freaking out. At one point many churches and christian associations were against the movie and wanted it banned. But they failed to realise that Dan Brown (the author) has declared the book itself as fiction. So why all the hoo-haas then? Obviously the movie is pure fiction and yet the society at large were so worried about the damage of the christian faith.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

god is in every one
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now which religion has taught mankind to bomb & kill others or commit murders , robberies , rapes & etcetera ? I believe none. It is mankind himself have chosed to deviate the teachings of any religion to his own benefit so as to fulfill his own desires , in the name of religion. So now who is to be blamed here ? religion or mankind ?


I accept your truth but (there's always a but), Accepted that its the fallacy of mankind. now that we have removed religion off the scenario, bottom line, we being imperfect, do not need religion to blame fallacies of current events. Where do we go from here?
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