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Is religion an abomination to humankind?
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tgopal
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now which religion has taught mankind to bomb & kill others or commit murders , robberies , rapes & etcetera ? I believe none

you are wrong, buddy!
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Instructions to Muslims about Unbelievers

Koran 9:29
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when follwers of other religions are humiliated.

Koran 8:12
Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs if they don't follow Islam.

Koran 9:5
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers to kill the idolators in any brutal way possible until the idolators submit themselves to Islam. Allah is indeed merciful !!

Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

Here Mohammed is trying to justify his brutal acts. He conveniently claims divine justification for the expression of his hatred by saying Allah himself revealed to him personally that people of other religions are evil and belong in Hell. Therefore, according to Mohammed any barbaric act against the unbelievers is completely justified.

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So, there is a religion which encourage it's believers to kill others!
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in short word it called JIHAD
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest007,

With due respect, I think you should do more in-depth research in religions of the world. Like I said, nothing or no one is perfect. Therefore we should not accept any religion blindly without questioning its merits.

Failure to quest for spritual knowledge means failure to progress.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just ignore this and only accept whatever advantages that can be learnt from it, not only Hinduism but others as well, and I do it with an open mind…


THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. WE TAKE THE GOOD TEACHINGS FROM ALL RELIGIONS AND PRACTISE IT.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suraj5 wrote:
Dear Basko,

No posting is too long or boring. Au contraire, I find your explanation rather interesting and to the point. There are some issues here which I would like to extrapolate, although its just an opinion.

Religion, as you already aware, written by messengers being human are imperfect in a sense that they can misinterpret the teachings of prophets and saints. With the exception of Hinduism, which is not a religion as you pointed out, every other religion's holy books were written some time after the passing of the respective prophets. Take Christianity for an example as Islam is not worthy of mention here.
The Bible was written 60 years after Christ returned to the LORD. There are only 4 gospels in the Bible because Bishop Ireaneus, who wrote the Bible, decided that out of the 30 or more gospels, he wanted 4. Does that actually make the Bible accurate representation of Jesus? Definitely not! Christ is a highly elevated spiritual soul who would've wanted his entire teachings documented, not partly or misinterpreted.

I believe science is the infant of Hinduism. What science has 'discovered' and is still 'discovering' now, never was a discovery as it was already described in Hindu vedic texts more than 9,000 years ago!


Totally agree with u man, thats why to claim the bible & quran as the ultimate teaching is a total manmade propaganda.....how in the world would few people document the exact teaching and intepretation of an divine force many years after its existance....im not undermining the true teachings of the earlier prophets, saints & divine forces, but what i cant agree on is the 'edited' version of these teachings which serves more to compliment what they think is rite & achieve the agendas & goals, and not the true nature of those teaching....& as a result, we can see today all the things done by the name of religion but actually its contradicting the real teaching itself...
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You Shalushalu,

You have just demonstrated what I have advocated all along....Never practise an religion......And more so for contradicting your beliefs.....
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

basko wrote:

Totally agree with u man, thats why to claim the bible & quran as the ultimate teaching is a total manmade propaganda.....how in the world would few people document the exact teaching and intepretation of an divine force many years after its existance....im not undermining the true teachings of the earlier prophets, saints & divine forces, but what i cant agree on is the 'edited' version of these teachings which serves more to compliment what they think is rite & achieve the agendas & goals, and not the true nature of those teaching....& as a result, we can see today all the things done by the name of religion but actually its contradicting the real teaching itself...


hw abt bagavad gita who wrote it ?? y didnt quote bagavad gita as well was it written by science itself? come on guys what are you all trying to say, say it clearly , suraj or basko what are you promoting actually?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brutal,

Its anyone's guess who wrote the Gita or its origins. Isn't that great? Make me appreciate the fact Hinduism itself is so ancient that everything about it is a mystery. Thats makes it not only interesting but everything about it true.

Besides, why are we discussing Hinduism? The entire forum is about religion.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

religion is the way of life created by human,
its include all the right ways which a human supose to be in comunity

the choice is in your hand,
are there really a god, the answer is also in your hand

for me i answer, each and everyone in these world is a god by himself
what you wish to a god, do it the same to human
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suraj5 wrote:
Brutal,

Its anyone's guess who wrote the Gita or its origins. Isn't that great? Make me appreciate the fact Hinduism itself is so ancient that everything about it is a mystery. Thats makes it not only interesting but everything about it true.

Besides, why are we discussing Hinduism? The entire forum is about religion.


hindusim is the only religion in malaysia the others are not religion. so what else do we talk about
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